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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #90 on: Aug 29, 2017, 09:47 AM »
I'm glad I could help you out. It sounds like you've get this under control now. I'll check back once in awhile to check on your progress.

Again, good work. I'm proud of you for seeing it through.  ;D

BTW: I still recommend that you install all of the optional updates as well, with maybe two or three excluded. For example, I remember leaving out some sort of Skype update as it wasn't something that I was interested in at the time. Installing all of the updates should not cause you any problems or concerns on a fresh Windows 7 installation. Plus, you will be able to control how you receive future updates as always.
 
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #91 on: Aug 29, 2017, 11:12 AM »
This is ironic. As I was getting ready to click "Post" on my last message (reference the updates), my Windows 10 system told me that new updates were just installed on my computer and that the system needed to restart. I looked over at my wife's system and it had the same message. Both systems were just rebooted.

Scuzzy; *sigh*
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #92 on: Aug 29, 2017, 11:27 AM »
I have limited updates to "important" ones and they're done.  The only other things I have done is load MSSE and "unchecky"  which I have found to be very useful. 
Have to run an errand for my son, but I will keep you poasted.  Don't know yet when I'm going to switch systems.  Now I have the old one on one monitor and the new one on the other.  2 keyboards and 2 mice, gets confusing some....
Maybe more later.......
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #93 on: Aug 30, 2017, 09:10 AM »
This morning I ran Crystal Disk Mark on the M2.   Here are the results: read 3306  write 1696
My Plextor numbers are : read 496  write 263

Pretty impressive.

I also dumped the old wired mouse (15yrs. old) in favor of a M510 I had on hand, what a difference.  I am however using the M318e on the old system.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #94 on: Aug 30, 2017, 09:19 AM »
The numbers are certainly impressive, but how does that translate to everyday use? I  know you just got the system up and running yesterday, but is it planting your butt in your seat when you boot it up? Lol

Out of curiosity, is all the work you did yesterday saved? If you were building an identical system would you be able to use the flash drive you created, or would you have to start over?
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #95 on: Aug 30, 2017, 09:35 AM »
The flash drive is reusable if the M2 is a Samsung.  The included drivers are specific to the 950 and 960.  I hope if I ever have too do this again Samsung will have developed a solution.
For the time being I have the drive on my desk.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #96 on: Aug 30, 2017, 09:55 AM »
Got it. The different drivers, depending on the SSD, makes sense.

So, does the system feel fast? Quick boot times? Applications?
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #97 on: Aug 30, 2017, 12:41 PM »
Having had some think time, I think the flash drive could be modified for other brands.  The Samsung drivers are in a folder on the thumb drive named NVME.  One could change that folder name and contents with drivers for another brand, I think.
But I wouldn't want to have to do it again.

And the answer to "does it plant me in the seat", I don't really know yet.  Both are running side by side, each on one monitor.  But I'm not sure if the new one is really faster.  My internet connection has just been improved now with 50 up and down from 15 up and down.  That difference I can see and I'll probably keep it when the trial is over for an additional $10.00/ month.  I'm not certain how to test the two other than by watching.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #98 on: Aug 31, 2017, 10:47 AM »
During the last 2 days I've been running the 2 machines side by side, the new one is not quite ready to take over.  But I've tried watching the same web site, using the same browser on both monitors and I can clearly see the difference between the Intel onboard graphics and the Gtx 550.  Colors, vibrance, and depth are noticeable.  (The monitors are both ASUS 23" IPS and about a couple of months different in age.)  I haven't decided yet if I want to put up with that difference for about $150.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #99 on: Aug 31, 2017, 10:59 AM »
I am unable to see any difference between my system and my wife's, but they are not exactly side-by-side. Is moving the GTX-550 from the old system an option?

It's awesome that you can get 50Mbps up/down speeds. It could be many, many years before I have that option here. :(

BTW: How's the boot time for the new system?
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #100 on: Aug 31, 2017, 01:31 PM »
Moving the GTX 550 is an option.  The old ASUS board has a DVI and a D-sub connector, I think it unlikely I would ever want to run 2 monitors again on the old system.  I do have a couple of really old LG Flatrons and I might use one with the old box, just need another DVI cable.   Good thought. 

I have been dragging my feet about switching machines, kind of like retiring an old, faithful companion.  But it's going to happen soon.  The m318e and K800 keyboard on the new system will help with the adjustment.
But there are differences, no matter what.  Just little things like KingSoft Writer, has been acquired by someone and is now WPS Suite.  The first two sessions with the word processor had a very annoying ad that simply wouldn't go away.

I haven't timed it but its very quick, I have set an option in the BIOS "time lapse after POST" to 3 seconds. 
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #101 on: Aug 31, 2017, 02:09 PM »
I like the idea of moving the 550.  I have one other question before I put the covers on and push it under the desk.  You have two fans in front; did you do that because you needed it or because you had one?  I have an unused Noctura 120mm fan I could install if necessary. As it is I have the stock fans front and rear that came with case, I think they're 140mm.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #102 on: Aug 31, 2017, 02:12 PM »
My wife's case shipped with 2 fans in front, whereas my R4 only had one in front. I opted to purchase another 140mm fan and I installed it without a hitch. It wasn't necessary, but since I have the fanless PSU I thought it would be a good idea. My system remains very quiet, so no harm either way.

Keep in mind that a different manufacturer's fan may not spin at the same rates as what came with the case, and may not spin at all at the lowest setting.

My advice is that unless you know you need another fan, you most likely don't. But f you decide to install another, stick with 140mm.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #103 on: Sep 01, 2017, 09:32 AM »
This morning I moved the 550Ti.  The new system is now under the desk and I d/l the latest driver from Nvidia.  All is well, graphics look great   and the temps are running in the low 40s.     Next to tackle is migrating email data and settings to a new d/l of Tbird.
So far I'm very pleased.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #104 on: Sep 06, 2017, 03:26 PM »
This may have been a very timely effort. My old system put up a BSOD this afternoon, it's first.  Something about a Power - Driver.
It has rebooted so it may have been a fluke.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #105 on: Sep 06, 2017, 03:36 PM »
Huh. I wonder what that's about.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #106 on: Sep 07, 2017, 10:11 AM »
I haven't a clue but it's been fine since.  When I rebooted Windows said "Windows has recovered."  But nothing else.
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #107 on: Sep 09, 2017, 09:47 AM »
So what do you make of the CPU liquid cooler?
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Re: thinking about new build
« Reply #108 on: Sep 09, 2017, 10:07 AM »
I think it's great.  CPU temp as I am typing is 28C.  I am speculating but the absence of the heat coming out of the air cooler keeps everything else cooler as well.  The one I bought has a single fan radiator but is available for a little more money with a dual fan radiator.  My Aussie buddy opined that the dual setup is overkill.
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And while we're at it, despite the difficulty with Win 7 and the M-2,  I'd guess the M-2 is 2-3 times faster than the "old" style SSD with things like opening programs.  Sometimes it's hard to tell whether my increased internet speed or the M-2 , or both are producing the speed I'm feeling.
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