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Windows 10 Update 1703
« on: Sep 17, 2017, 11:53 AM »
I'm not happy. Microsoft Windows 10 just shoved a major update up my ass. I'm currently on my Win 7 laptop as my main systems are currently down. Although I had the option to "snooze" the updates, I need to do it now because I cannot risk that the update will install while I'm preparing for work in the morning.

I still have no idea what sort of damage the update will do to my settings, as previous major updates have deleted my preferences with whatever Microsoft feels it should be. Thanks to previous experience, I'm assuming the worst.  >:(

My systems restarted some 10 minutes ago, and are currently at 25%. It's going slow.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #1 on: Sep 17, 2017, 12:28 PM »
What a PITA.  MS should be ashamed.
Why don't you think about trying to find a Win7 license somewhere and dump that crap they call "10"?
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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #2 on: Sep 17, 2017, 01:25 PM »
I would probably have to make some hardware modifications. When I built these 2 systems, they did not behave well with Windows 7. I don't recall all of the problems I had, but I remember I could not find any workarounds and I finally gave up. When I first installed 10, it seemed like a good solution. It wasn't until later that I realized just how bad it was.

I walked away from the updates and came back to the login screen. Once I logged in Windows had to "get more information" and continue setting up the updates. So I walked away again in a huff. By the time I returned some 10 minutes later, Edge was on my screen with some crap information I didn't want. I also found One Drive running in the background, despite having it previously disabled. Had I logged into that first thing tomorrow at 4:30 am, I would have been pissed. Not that I'm all that happy at the moment.

Surprisingly, this time my preferences were not reset... at least not that I have found. I don't know what was updated and I have no desire to go find out.

Bill, you made a very, very wise choice keeping with Windows 7 on your new build. Feel free to pat yourself on the back. I am utterly disgusted with Windows 10.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #3 on: Sep 17, 2017, 01:37 PM »
Damn it, time to start troubleshooting. As with previous major Win10 updates, my scanner is no longer recognized by PaperPort. On top of that, my external drive is no longer recognized by Windows.

Scuzzy; I hate Microsoft more than ever.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #4 on: Sep 17, 2017, 03:02 PM »
As I recall, "they didn't play well with win 7" was not the real issue.  You were pissed that your wife's and your win7 install had bloomed to 65 - 75 gigs.  And you couldn't figure out why.  And when you finally quit trying to find the Space Goblins, you installed Win 10.

My Win7 install and various programs on the C: drive is now 65 gigs and I couldn't care less. That includes all the "important" (formerly Critical) Updates.   I could not figure out why that bothered you and I still don't understand.  There is a ton of space available beyond the win7 install, whatever the size.

I believe your hardware selection is GTG just the way it is today.  Yes, it means hours of work, but think how much more you would enjoy using your powerhouse with Win 7.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #5 on: Sep 17, 2017, 03:24 PM »
I recall being frustrated by the storage goblins and not understanding why Windows 7 got so fat. But part of my decision to go with Win 10 was an issue with a couple drivers that I could not resolve in Windows 7. One had to do either with Bluetooth or with sound, and the other was with the mobo's WiFi. ASUS did not have a solution, nor could I find anything on the web. Updating to the latest BIOS at the time didn't help either. Windows 10 recognized the hardware and automatically installed the drivers, which helped my decision along.

It's because of the driver issues that I could not resolve that has kept me from trying Win 7 again. BTW: I still have a couple Win 7 licenses available.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #6 on: Sep 17, 2017, 03:34 PM »
Ah, this is the first I'm hearing about the drivers, so the culprit is the motherboard / ASUS.  I didn't realize that.  Maybe not resolve-able yet.  But I'll bet you're not the only one.  When I get some time tomorrow or Tuesday I'll look around....
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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #7 on: Sep 17, 2017, 03:41 PM »
So I went back at previous poasts and found that I stated the WiFi was working nice and fast on the Windows 7 installation. I recall having driver problems that I could not resolve, but now I'm second guessing myself as to what they were. I'm certain the Bluetooth was an issue. Hmm.

I wonder if I have the wherewithal to try a Windows 7 installation again. That's a lot of stinkin' work.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #8 on: Sep 18, 2017, 08:52 AM »
Yes indeed it is a lot of work, but so was mine and I am certainly not sorry.  Do you use Blue Tooth for speakers? That's easily changed for not a lot of money.
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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #9 on: Sep 19, 2017, 07:48 AM »
Ugh. You're killing me. Lol

I'll consider it once I'm done with this contracting job. Not looking forward to it, though.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #10 on: Sep 29, 2017, 05:20 PM »
I'm still no fan of Windows 10, but one positive thing came out of the last update. From a dead start (fully powered down) it now takes less than 20 seconds to login to the desktop, including entering the password. Prior to the update it was something closer to 40-45 seconds.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #11 on: Oct 11, 2017, 06:30 AM »
Well, this is just peachy. Microsoft is releasing another major update to Windows 10, beginning next week.

Scuzzy; I can't wait.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #12 on: Oct 11, 2017, 10:25 AM »
To add insult to injury...

My last poast was the last thing I did on my computer at home, as I prepared to leave for work. When I shut my computer down, updates were ready to be installed whether I liked it or not. As I walked out the door some 5 minutes later, the updates were still installing.

Scuzzy; I can't wait to get home.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #13 on: Oct 11, 2017, 04:56 PM »
I have my fingers crossed....
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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #14 on: Oct 18, 2017, 10:20 AM »
This is freakin' wonderful. Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update) is currently downloading in the background. It's yet another major update, and apparently big as it's been downloading for the last 25 minutes and is currently at 38%. My internet connection has slowed to a crawl as well.

Scuzzy; I wonder why Microsoft hates me so much. :(

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #15 on: Oct 18, 2017, 03:17 PM »
Now I'm genuinely pissed off. I have a new "whether you like it or not" app shoved down my throat by Microsoft. It's called "People" and it installed with the latest update.

The problem is that the app cannot be uninstalled, nevermind that I don't want this crap installed on my computer. I now have an in-your-face app that has made a permanent home for itself on my taskbar, and there is nothing I can do to evict it.

It's the icon on the far left, shown in the attachment below. Click it, and you get the next screen. There is no way to turn this crap off, or even to hide it.

I have no words to describe how angry I am right now.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #16 on: Oct 19, 2017, 07:44 AM »
If this app shows in the control panel, there are a couple of really good, non-MS uninstallers you could try.
Wise Program Uninstaller and/or Revo.
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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #17 on: Oct 19, 2017, 09:34 AM »
Here is another option, uninstall the latest update and then:

Option 1: Stop The Windows Update Service

As central as it is to the core of Windows 10, Windows Update is actually just another Windows process so it can be stopped with these simple steps:

Open the Run command (Win + R), in it type: services.msc and press enter
From the Services list which appears find the Windows Update service and open it
In ‘Startup Type’ (under the ‘General’ tab) change it to ‘Disabled’
Restart
To re-enable Windows Update simply repeat these four steps, but change the Startup Type to ‘Automatic’

source: Forbes . com

Other options exist but for versions above Windows Home.  Apparently the W Pro version allows some form of control.
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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #18 on: Oct 19, 2017, 09:35 AM »
It's not showing in the Control Panel. So far nothing I have tried works, to include running Windows PowerShell as administrator. Every attempt comes back with "removal failed" and "This app is part of Windows and cannot be uninstalled on a per-user basis. An administrator can attempt to remove the app from the computer using Turn Windows Features on or off.  However, it may not be possible to uninstall the app." The app is not listed in Windows features, so I cannot turn it off there.

I have scoured the web and have found nothing to get rid of this crap program.

Not that you would, but DO NOT install Windows 10.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #19 on: Oct 19, 2017, 09:39 AM »
Yes, Windows 10 update can be stopped in Services, but it kills all updates, including critical ones.

I think my only permanent solution is to go through the pain of installing Windows 7.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #20 on: Oct 19, 2017, 10:48 AM »
Well now you're making progress :)
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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #21 on: Oct 21, 2017, 01:19 PM »
It took a while and determination, but I finally figured out how to remove People from my taskbar. The setting was hidden inside the taskbar properties. Unfortunately, I still cannot find a way to permanently remove this crap from my computer. At least it's no longer taunting me on the taskbar.

Scuzzy; up yours, Microsoft.

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Re: Windows 10 Update 1703
« Reply #23 on: Oct 22, 2017, 10:32 AM »
Geez. I have no words.