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Re: Wish List
« Reply #30 on: Jan 09, 2015, 03:41 PM »
I found an excellent power supply calculator here:

Power Supply Calculator

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #31 on: Jan 10, 2015, 08:45 AM »
scuzzy, I looked at the ASUS board pretty closely and didn't see an external SATA port.  Is there an alternative?  There is a USB port on the rear but if your external drives are SATA.......
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #32 on: Jan 10, 2015, 12:00 PM »
I'm not using an external drive and I haven't in several years. If I ever decide to use one, it will be a USB 3 model connected to my ASUS router so that both my computers can use it. But reality is that Dropbox pretty much gives me all the backup I need. I think I have around 60GB of storage available.

The reason I gravitated to the ASUS board I mentioned was M.2 & SATA Express support, and built-in WiFi & Bluetooth.

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #33 on: Jan 10, 2015, 12:08 PM »
I am very happy with my ASUS board, but I don't recall which it is without looking it up.  The one thing I recall that I was happy about was that the SATA ports for the SSD were not numbered.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #34 on: Jan 10, 2015, 12:08 PM »
What do you mean that they weren't numbered?

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #35 on: Jan 10, 2015, 12:14 PM »
IIRC there are 4-6 SATA ports for HDs, when mine first went together I had plugged my SSD into what was listed in BIOS as "Port 1" not "0" as it should have been.  My backup HD was in port 0.  I simply reversed them and all was well.  But they were not numbered.  The only hint was in the user manual listing the "0" port as a different color.  Some of the HD ports are for data only.

Edit: I recall writing a poast about this but I can't find it,  probably buried in another.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #36 on: Jan 10, 2015, 12:41 PM »
Got it.

BTW: Your signature block shows your mobo as Asus P8Z77-V.

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #37 on: Jan 10, 2015, 12:43 PM »
Duh, forgot that was there!  You don't see it when writing a reply.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #38 on: Jan 10, 2015, 01:28 PM »
RE: cpu coolers.  The site that ranks video cards on a bang for the buck basis also has a section for CPU coolers and the last time I looked Cooler Master was at the top of the list.
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Re: Wish List
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #40 on: Jan 10, 2015, 02:25 PM »
No, I don't think so. It may have been Tom's but I really don't remember.  You originally pointed me there when I was looking for a card a couple of years ago.  It maybe gone.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #41 on: Jan 10, 2015, 04:42 PM »
PassMark Software Videocard Benchmarks is the only ranking site I've referenced over the years. For that matter it's the only one I'm familiar with. Either way, I will probably settle on a Noctua CPU cooler.

As for a graphics card, if I were buying today I'd probably spring for this MSI GeForce GTX 970 ($340).

I hope to start this project in the next 4 to 6 months. I have a good chunk of change put aside already, but I need to save a little more.

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #42 on: Jan 10, 2015, 04:51 PM »
Bill, I found my original recommendation to you:

New System Recommendations

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #43 on: Jan 11, 2015, 08:12 AM »
Thanks, that was helpful to re-read.  It brought to mind another heads up for you.  The  Noctua CPU cooler I'm using is one of the dual fan models and uses a back plate to mount. But the back plate bolts on from the underside of the M/B and is something you have to do before you mount the board in the case.  And if for some reason you need to work on it, you must take the M/B completely out of the case to get to it  The upside is it is a heck of a lot better than the OEM cooler that arrived with the CPU.

Edit: Say what happened to this idea?  Probably going to be out this year, maybe in time for your build.......http://tinyurl.com/mz7yerh

I think I will wait before even thinking about a new system.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #44 on: Jan 11, 2015, 12:53 PM »
I have not forgotten about CPU cooler back brackets. I will certainly install the cooler while the mobo is out, but I appreciate the reminder.

I'm considering this Transcend 256GB SATA M.2 SSD (256GB=$119) as a possibility. I still need to research how it will work out with the ASUS Z97 board, but it should support it just fine. I like the idea of mounting the drive directly to the mobo. Aside from one less cable, maybe I can do away with the drive cages entirely.

Maybe some better options will be available by the time I start putting this thing together.

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #45 on: Jan 11, 2015, 01:37 PM »
That's interesting but I am having difficulty visualizing how this SSD fits on to the M/B.  Is the M.2 connection the equivalent of a PCIe slot, or something?
Is it for the SATA Express connector?  That I see in the picture of the Z97.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #46 on: Jan 11, 2015, 01:41 PM »
I saw the picture in the link, it doesn't tell me what it is plugged into.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #47 on: Jan 11, 2015, 01:47 PM »
Click this link: ASUS Z97 Pro

If you look about 1/3 way down the page, you'll see a photo with a rendition of how the SSD connects to the M.2 slot.

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #48 on: Jan 11, 2015, 01:53 PM »
Thanks for that link, now I understand, I think.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #49 on: Jan 11, 2015, 02:14 PM »
This short video will help paint a clearer picture: M.2 & PCIe SSDs Explained

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #50 on: Jan 13, 2015, 07:42 AM »
I truly hope your description of a "clearer picture" was tongue in cheek.  I have watched that video 3 times and aside from having the most annoying voice I've ever heard, the only thing that is clear, to me, is that M.2 is available in several sizes and the B-M is the most common.  I have to assume that the M.2 SSD  is faster than the PCIe becauses it uses 2 PCIe "channels".  I am not at all sure the presenter actually said that.
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Re: Wish List
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #52 on: Jan 14, 2015, 08:25 AM »
Thank you , yes it did.
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Re: Wish List
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #54 on: Jan 14, 2015, 01:27 PM »
That is amazing, 512 g in a 22/80 mm form factor.  Looks like it's going to be awhile before they're available at retail though.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #55 on: Jan 14, 2015, 01:30 PM »
The article estimates 2 months for availability. I probably won't have enough saved until summer, so maybe I'll have more options then. I'll look forward to reviews on the product.

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #56 on: Jan 14, 2015, 08:47 PM »
Yet another case to consider. This one is a mid-tower ATX by the German company be quiet!:

be quiet! Silent Base 800

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #57 on: Jan 15, 2015, 07:42 AM »
I think this one has great features and would be easier to build.  The previous one considered listed comments below about flat cables for the PSU because that is all that fits.  One of the things that caught my eye was the 140mm case fans.  I checked newegg and they sell replacement Be Quiet case fans in that size for $26, a little pricey IMO.
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Re: Wish List
« Reply #58 on: Jan 15, 2015, 09:47 AM »
Unfortunately the be quiet! case won't work unless I buy a new desk. The case is large, standing 559mm (22") tall. The most my desk can reasonably accommodate is 19" in height. Even the Corsair 100R is a bit large compared to what I currently have (15" tall). I looked at the specs and it's either 471mm (18.5") or 430mm (16.9") tall. The specs fail to clarify which is height/depth. I'm thinking (hoping) the height is the 16.9" spec.

The Corsair 100R seems to be more than enough to accept everything I plan on throwing at it. From reading the manufacturer's site, it should be large enough to accept performance parts with plenty of room. Referring to the 100R, this blurb is from TechPowerUp:

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And with up to five fan mounting locations (two fans included), tool-free support for four 3.5" drives and four 2.5" SSDs, and support for long graphics cards, the cases easily support high-end GPUs, liquid coolers, massive storage, and PSUs.

I'll wait to see what reviewers have to say once the case is available.

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Re: Wish List
« Reply #59 on: Jan 15, 2015, 12:42 PM »
You must have drawer space under the desk top.  I just measured my desk, no drawers, and its 25 1/4 floor to bottom of desk top.  That means the be quiet case would work for me, if I were building.........
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